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Moorish American nationality card which has phrase I am a citizen of the U.S.A. highlighted
My nationality card, is an exact replica of the nationality card from the Prophet's era.


I would like to use this post to clear up the confusion within the Moorish National and Divine Movement regarding the sociopolitical status of Moorish Americans.  Many Moorish Americans claim to be Moorish nationals as opposed to being citizens of the U.S.A.


Are Moorish Americans Moorish Nationals or U.S. Citizens?



I was inspired to answer this question from a post in our Facebook group for Moorish Americans (link here).  While the actual post had nothing to do with the topic, the question which lead into the issue regarding the status of Moorish Americans also is pertinent to addressing this issue.


On the group post mentioned above a brother posted a screenshot from a case entitled Rights of Nationals of the United States of America in Morocco (France v. United States of America) and cited it as "proof" that North America is really Morocco.  While I do agree with this concept, I felt it was important to point out the error in sharing this particular case and asserting it as proof that North America is actually part of Morocco.

Upon examining the document it is quite easy to ascertain that the case is actually concerning US citizens that are Morocco. They are being referred to herein as "nationals" because they are not citizens of Morocco.

The judgment in the case refers to US nationals in the Kingdom of Morocco across the Atlantic in Northern Africa.  France was sued by the United States because Morocco was a French colony at the time. It actually did not take much time to figure this out upon reading the case law.  Unfortunately though, this is often the type of "scholarship" that we see touted in memes, other internet posts, and videos to "prove" the author's point.

Somehow this lead to another Moor asserting how nationals are held in a higher status than citizens.  I hear many Moorish Americans also repeat this line verbatim.  It is time to clear this up and use law and the international interpretations of these statuses instead of repeating the same verbiage being passed around online and taken for serious scholarship.

Is the Moorish National in a Superior Position to the Standard Citizen?


First, let's answer the question whether or not Moorish Americans are nationals or citizens.  The answer to both questions would be YES.  The reason for this is that all citizens are also nationals.  When US citizens travel to other countries, they are considered nationals because they are not citizens of the other nation they are in, unless of course the have dual citizenship.  This is why in the case shared above, the US is suing France on behalf of its citizens who were engaged in trade and commerce with Morocco.

Within the wording of that very same case, they are referred to as citizens and nationals almost interchangeably.  For example,

in one sentence they are called nationals,

"The United States maintained that this measure affected its rights under treaties with Morocco and contended that, in accordance with these treaties and with the General Act of Algeciras of 1906, no Moroccan law or regulation could be applied to its nationals in Morocco without its previous consent."

in another they are referred to as citizens,

"The Court rejected the contention of the United States that its consular jurisdiction included cases in which only the defendant was a citizen or protΓ©gΓ© of the United States. It also rejected the claim by the United States that the application to United States citizens of laws and regulations in the French Zone of Morocco required the prior assent of the United States Government."

and again here being referred to as nationals...

"The Court rejected a counter-claim by the United States that its nationals in Morocco were entitled to immunity from taxation."


Citizens have rights and privileges that nationals lack.  It is wrong to assume that the national status is higher than citizen, especially in light of the fact that all US citizens are also nationals.  I am not sure why people are spreading this online but it has no basis in truth. Ask Samoa or another US territory if they enjoy being nationals without full control over their land, which is an occupied territory. They are perfect examples of US nationals and they lack full rights and privileges of citizens. Many Moors erroneously say that being a citizen equates to being a “subject” (i.e. slave) to a corporation. Once again, this has no basis in truth or facts.

From Black's Law Dictionary: “CITIZEN – In general, A member of a free city or jural society, (civitas.) possessing all the rights and privileges which can be enjoyed by any person under its constitution and government, and subject to the corresponding duties.”

Saying you are not a citizen in contrast to being a Moorish national sounds good right? It may make  you feel like you have some superior status but according to United States nationality law, all citizens are nationals.  Period.

On the other hand all nationals are not considered citizens and do not posses all rights and privileges of citizens! This is fact and law. Not hearsay from the internet or some YouTube video.



Citizens are nationals, but nationals are not citizens and lack the rights citizens have and ability to shape and define their government.

Although all U.S.[2][3] citizens are also U.S. nationals, the reverse is not true. As specified in 8 U.S.C. § 1408, a person whose only connection to the U.S.[2][3] is through birth in an outlying possession (which is defined in 8 U.S.C. § 1101 as American Samoa and Swains Island (which is administered as part of American Samoa)), or through descent from a person so born, acquires U.S. nationality but not U.S.[2][3] citizenship.
The U.S. passport issued to non-citizen nationals contains the endorsement code 9 which states: "THE BEARER IS A UNITED STATES NATIONAL AND NOT A UNITED STATES CITIZEN." on the annotations page.

Like permanent residents, they are not currently allowed by any U.S. state to vote in federal or state elections.

Residents of Puerto Rico, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and American Samoa are US nationals because they are in occupied territories, not FREE JURAL SOCIETIES. They are not citizens and do not possess full rights and privileges of citizens!

I will take this a little further in case there is still uncertainty as to why "national" is not above "citizenship" status. I suggest visiting the sources cited below so that you understand the legal reasoning behind citizenship which plainly states that all US citizens are US nationals.   Consider the following from the National Governors Association:
“A territory generally has a territorial governor appointed by the Federal government. They usually do not have any elected body of representatives. In addition they have no representation in Congress. Most territories have too few people to require any state or federal representation."

Unlike STATES, occupied territories have ZERO elected officials. They cannot truly govern themselves.

It does not matter where or who the information saying that Moorish Americans are nationals and not citizens is coming from it is leading people astray.  It also goes against what Prophet Noble Drew Ali brought forth.  The Prophet states over and over that we have full rights and privileges of US citizens.  See examples below.

"If you have a nation you must have a free national name in order to be recognized by this nation as an American citizen."
PROPHET DREW ALI SPEAKS TO THE NATIONS, Noble Drew Ali

"The citizens of all free national governments according to their national constitution are all of one family bearing one free national name."

"I, the Prophet, was prepared by the Great God Allah to warn my people to repent from their sinful ways and go back to that state of mind to their forefathers Divine and National principles that they will be law-abiders and receive their divine right as citizens, according to the free national constitution that was prepared for all free national beings. They are to claim their own free national name and religion. There is but one issue for them to be recognized by this government and of the earth and it comes only through the connection of the Moorish Divine National Movement, which is incorporated in this government and recognized by all other nations of the world. And through it they and their children can receive their Divine rights, unmolested by other citizens that they can cast a free national ballot at the polls under the free national constitution of the States Government and not under a granted privilege as has been the existing condition for many generations."

The wealth of all national governments, gold and silver and commerce belong to the citizens alone and without your national citizenship by name and principles, you have no true wealth..."
A DIVINE WARNING BY THE PROPHET FOR THE NATIONS, Noble Drew Ali

"The object of our Organization is to help in the great program of uplifting fallen humanity and teach those things necessary to make our members better citizens."

"Inspired by the lofty teachings of the Koran, we have it as the revealed word of God Allah. We shall foster the principles of its teachings among our members. This is our religious privilege as American citizens, under the laws of one of the greatest documents of all time-the American Constitution."
MOORISH LEADER'S HISTORICAL MESSAGE TO AMERICA, Noble Drew Ali

"Anytime a Man or a Woman fails or refuses to cast a sacred ballot at the polls they separate themselves from all rights of an American citizen. For surely this is the one connecting medium for a citizen to his nation. They become no more than belated beast of burdens."

"...Before there can be general relief for the economic good of all, all forms of political slavery must be abolished and every citizen must take his part in the affairs of the nation."
POLITICAL SLAVERY, Noble Drew Ali

"But now since they have found out from the Government Officials and the Nations of the Earth, that this is the only Soul Foundation, that all Asiatics must depend upon, for their Earthly Salvation as American Citizens, They are working every scheme that they can, to disqualify Me, so they may take charge of the situation."
TO BE PROCLAIMED AT EVERY MEETING, Noble Drew Ali

March 11, 1929
"When man fails after being placed Head of the Temple by the Prophet of obeying our Divine laws and constitutions, he is a traitor and enemy of the Divine Creed and unloyal to the National Government U.S.A. to which the movement is to make men and women better citizens."
FROM THE PROPHET,
NOBLE DREW ALI


Conclusion on Moorish National and Citizenship Status


Heads up.  If you take in the information above and still choose to tout Moorish national status in contrast to U.S. citizenship take heed with that type of wording. It originates from the European, Christian sovereign citizens movement, which has nothing to do with us Moorish American Moselms.

"The law enforcement agencies, local, State and Federal agencies are forming task forces, investigating intelligence units to come down on and counter so called sovereign citizens. Those who are so called white sovereign citizens, melanated so called sovereign citizens and Moors who are under that banner and recognized as such who are out of line with the authority and teachings of Prophet Noble Drew Ali." - Moorish American News

If you read our Divine Constitution and By Laws and the Prophet's literature, you would already know this talk is fallacy.  Prophet Noble Drew Ali advocated that we are citizens, and we are supposed to get representation in the state government and take our place in the affairs of men, like all other nations do! (Prophet Drew Ali Speaks to the Nations, Friday, September 28, 1928)

Peace everyone.  I share this info in love. I do not know everything. There is a lot of incorrect info floating around, and in some instances, even being taught by some of our esteemed scholars and lecturers. Regardless of what anyone is out here teaching, national is not above citizen. The info I shared can be researched in less than an hour and proven correct. Don't stick to biased websites with no sources for their info, look up the dictionary meanings, case law, and what is explained clearly on gov websites.



Sources:
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States.html
https://www.nga.org/consulting/powers-and-authority/
https://www.icj-cij.org/en/case/11
https://www.icj-cij.org/files/case-related/11/011-19520827-JUD-01-00-EN.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law
http://moorishamericannews.com/is-american-citizenship-important
https://www.history.com/topics/us-government/three-branches-of-government
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-U-S-A
https://www.quora.com/Should-all-U-S-territories-become-states

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2 comments

  1. Islam. I've never heard Moors saying we are nationals but not citizens. I really don't understand that at all... just reading about it. In regards to Moors not being citizens, I think maybe they are speaking no longer being wardship citizens of the U.S. government, but I've never really encountered that teaching in studies or research. Yet. I suppose. Islam.

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  2. I think they mean Autonomous, freedom to govern itself or control its own affairs.

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