Are Moors U.S. citizens? Or Moorish Subjects? Is there a difference?

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A great question was posed in the Moors in America FB Group asking if Moors are U.S. Citizens, Moorish Subjects, or if there is even a difference in these statuses.


Below is the correspondence.  For privacy purposes, I'm only sharing portions of the discussion and no profile pictures.  I will also share my commentary and information from other sources as well.  Hope you find enlightenment from this civil discussion between several Moorish American men.  If so, please Spread and Share this article!

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To Be or Not To Be...An American Citizen!


What did our prophet, Noble Drew Ali intend for us when he spearheaded the Divine National Movement?  Well, look no further than the nationality cards given to members of the Moorish Science Temple of America to see the quote which reads "I am a citizen of the U.S.A." to understand that the Prophet wanted members of the MSTA to be U.S.A. citizens.

With all of the propaganda floating around and ridiculous rhetoric from the sovereign citizens movement (which has nothing to do with Moorish Americans or our Divine National Movement) getting mixed in with the ideology of some people who identify as Moors its easy to see why many Moorish Americans are confused on this topic.  Well, once again, Noble Drew Ali made it plain as day where he stood when setting up this movement.  Check out these quotes below.
“The Negro problem is being solved only as it can, and that is by the Moorish National Divine Movement. If you have a nation you must have a free national name in order to be recognized by this nation as an American citizen.”.
~ Excerpt from “Prophet Drew Ali Speaks To The Nations”



“I know all true American citizens are identified by national descent names to answer and apply to the free national constitution of this free National Republic of the United States of America. That’s why I am calling on all true national citizens to help me morally and financially in my great work I am doing to help this national government. For without a free national name, without a descent flag of your forefathers, there is not a national divine title of the government in which we live.” ~ Excerpt from “Prophet Makes A Plea To The Nation”

The "negro problem" that Prophet Noble Drew Ali was referring to addresses the 14th Amendment corporate entity status of everyone who falls under the category of African-American.  This is not a rumor or conspiracy but fact.  African-Americans are officially 14th Amendment corporate entities that are not actual citizens of the United States and therefore, have no legal protections or remedies.  This is one of the reasons that it is so easy for police officers to gun down innocent "black" people and get away with it.  Don't take my word for it though.

Mike Huckabee: Dred Scott decision still ‘the law of the land’

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said this week the Supreme Court’s 1857 decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford — which held that free or enslaved black people were not U.S. citizens — remains the “law of the land” in the country to this day.


” ‘Well, how dare you say it’s not the law of the land?’ Because that’s their phrase — ‘it’s the law of the land,’” Mr. Huckabee, a 2016 GOP presidential candidate, said in audio obtained by Buzzfeed. “Michael, [the] Dred Scott decision of 1857 still remains to this day the law of the land, which says that black people aren’t fully human. Does anybody still follow the Dred Scott Supreme Court decision?”

On the website Genealogy Today, in response to the question "when were African Americans granted citizenship?" the answer reads as so:

If there was ever any doubt as to whether or not African Americans were entitled to citizenship, the Dred Scott decision of 1857 specifically set forth that African slaves (and their descendants) could never be citizens and had no citizenship rights. That decision, however, only fueled the fire.

In so many words, this passage is telling you that African Americans were never granted citizenship or "equal justice under the law".  It is impossible for people that willingly accept a status that was created specifically to keep them in bondage under the law to enjoy the rights and privileges of actual US citizens. This is why it took so long, over 100 years, after the Emancipation Proclamation for "black" people to get some sort of civil rights and legal protections against discrimination.  And they had to fight tooth and nail for their civil rights. African Americans are still fighting for their rights to this day, which is why the Black Lives Matter movement is fundamentally flawed on so many levels.

The free national constitution declared all MEN free and equal. Can a MAN be a negro, black, colored or Ethiopian? The above labels are constructs of an artificial history, and the maxim of law-the doctrine of nullius filius, renders such people incapable of citizenship acquisition outside of the 14th Amendment, as said constructs are not considered MEN in the eyes of the law.

Noble Drew Ali, founder of the Moorish American Movement (1913), in expounding on the 14th Amendment, omitted the citizenship clause, and spoke only on the incorporation function of the amendment, in that it allowed for the southern states to be reabsorbed back into the Union. This makes perfect sense, as the foundation of his movement was to teach the African Americans they are not negroes, and in returning to us the knowledge of their national origin, culture, divine creed, etc., freed them from the perils of nullius filius, and therefore rendered the citizenship clause for us non-applicable. Unlike the States Rights/Sovereign Citizen advocates, who are PROTESTING the incorporation doctrine function of the 14th Amendment; for the African American, socio-politically in “proper person,” it simply does not apply.

“The 14th and 15th Amendments brought the North and South in unit, placing the Southerners who were at that time without power, with the constitutional body of power. And at that time, 1865, the free national constitutional law that was enforced since 1774 declared all men equal and free, and if all men are declared by the free national constitution to be free and equal since that constitution has never been changed, there is no need for the application of the 14th and 15th Amendments for the salvation of our people as citizens.”

-Prophet Noble Drew Ali, Founder of the Moorish Science Temple of America

So hopefully this ends any confusion on the matter!

Yes, Moorish Americans are citizens of the U.S.A.  We want nothing to do with the sovereign citizens movement started by people of European descent and also want nothing to do with the people identifying themselves as Moors who are claiming to be sovereign.  A sovereign is a supreme ruler or monarch.  To even think that you could claim something like that with no army or power would be foolish indeed!

Noble Drew Ali wanted to bring Moorish Americans lawfully back into the fold of the Constitution.  That's it!  Steer clear of anyone talking that sovereign citizen mess.  It doesn't matter what their skin color is, if they are talking like that they are either confused or trying to entrap as many people as possible.

The law enforcement agencies, local, State and Federal agencies are forming task forces, investigating intelligence units to come down on and counter so called sovereign citizens. Those who are so called white sovereign citizens, melanated so called sovereign citizens and Moors who are under that banner and recognized as such who are out of line with the authority and teachings of Prophet Noble Drew Ali.

The matter is such a big deal that the MSTA put out a press release stating that they have nothing to do with the so-called sovereign citizens movement, groups, or individuals prescribing to those ideologies.  You can read there statement about radical Moors here.

FB Discussion on Whether Moors are U.S. Citizens, Moorish Subjects, or Something Else Entirely


Exu Miller El: A Moorish American moslem is a us citizen. Our allegiance is to Allah and his Prophets, we earn the title of faithful by paying dues and being in alignment with the needs and necessities of the MSTA.

Terrance Groves EL
: "Join the Moorish Science Temple of America and then you will have power to redeem your race." - Noble Drew Ali the Prophet and Founder of The Moorish Science Temple of America.

Shaheed Jennings El: On our nationality card the prophet makes us Moorish American Moslems. And citizens of the USA.

Terrance Groves EL: #Facts

Shaheed Jennings El: Happy Holy Day Moslem

Kane Loc: Define USA.

Kane Loc: How can the Prophet make you the citizen of a country? Is The Prophet a Country aka Nation State?

The USA is a trademark name of the U.S., And Moors can never be citizens of it as LAW dictates and common sense should not desire. Church and State are not privy in U.S. Law. Lawfully the MSTOA Inc is a quasi Nation-State subject to the U.S. jurisdiction.

Kane Loc: When you go through tbe chambers, it is equivalent to being ordained as a minister in eyes of LAW. Now you can get a Ministerial Tax Exemption by putting your shit in the Church/Temple Name. But The Church/Temple now controls it at law. You exchange your privacy being controlled by the U.S. direct to exchanging it to the MSTOA Inc for an exemption. Same with all the other Bodies of someone smart enough to figure it out and do it on their own.

The End.

There is no possession, which is 9 tenths of the law, of anything in the MSTOA Inc but a CLAIM and religious beliefs & tribal titles USAGE that is acknowledged or recognized diplomatically by any quasi Sovereign Body Politic on earth.

Kane Loc: Likewise for All Body Politics of Moorish Americans I know of.

Kane Loc: The Status of The MSTOA Inc being quasi resulted from Trust Mismanagement by The Temple after his death as no BONAFIDE BOARD MEMBER ON THE AFFADAVIT OF RELIGIOUS CORPORATION WAS IN POSSESSION OR CONTROL OF THE MSTOA INC FUNCTIONING AS THE MSTOA INC.

Kane Loc: It was placed in Public Domain

Kane Loc: Redeemed by Freemasons. So Moorish Americans are IN THE EYES OF LAW, JUST SOME 14TH AMENDMENT U.S. CITIZENS WHO IF THEY JOIN A TEMPLE ARE JUST MEMBERS OF A CHURCH ELIGIBLE FOR MINISTERIAL TAX EXEMPTIONS IF ORDAINED WITHIN THE TEMPLE. AND ARE REPRESENTED IN INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS NOT BY AN INTERNAL ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF QUASI NATIONAL WITH FULL INDEPENDENT NATION - STATE POTENTIAL STATUS AT LAW AS LEFT BY THE PROPHET; ...BUT THESE 360 DEGREE MASTER MOORISH MASONS ARE REPPED BY 33RD DEGREE FREEMASONS OF ALBION EUROPEAN, MU'URISH, MOORISH, JEWISH, AND OTHER NATIONALITIES AND ALLEGIANCES AS A SUBJECT QUASI NATION STATE OF THE U.S. CORPORATION.

THE PROPHETS ADOPTED "INDIAN" EXEMPTIONS STEMMING FROM HIS ACTUAL NATIONALITY OF CHEROKEE EASTERN BAND EXPIRED WHEN TEMPLE WENT IN PUBLIC DOMAIN. ALL HE DID WAS AS A FULL BLOOD CIVILIZED TRIBE AMERICAN INDIAN, DO AS AN AMERICAN INDIAN CAN AND START A NEW TRIBE CALLED MOORISH AMERICANS. THE NEW FREEMASONIC OWNERS ARE THE TEMPLE NOW AND TRIBAL CHIEFS. THE GRAND BODY IS SIMPLY A PANEL OF MINISTERS UNDER THEM NOW. THEY WERE NOT CAREFUL THEY ARE BACK IN SLAVERY.

THE HOLDERS OF THE MHTOS INC ACTUALLY HAVE THE ONLY POSSIBLE BONAFIDE CLAIM TO THE PROPHET INDIAN EXEMPTIONS BUT NOT THE ESTATE AS THE MSTOA INC WAS SET UP AS TRUSTEES OF THAT PARTICULAR TRUST. SO TECHNICALLY AT LAW, IF A BONAFIDE AUTHORIZED AGENT OF THE BOD OF THE MHTOS INC IS NATIONALIZING THEY WOULD BE THEY IN PROPER TRUSTEESHIP OF THE PROPHET TRUST HOLDING THOSE EXEMPTIONS IN ESTATE.

FOLLOW ME? FOLLOW KNOWING LAW PERTINENT TO GOVERNMENTS, ORGS, & CORPS, ETC RATHER.

MOORISH AMERICANS/AL MOROCCANS DESCENDANTS ARE 14TH AMENDMENT U.S. SUBJECTS. IF A SHEIK OR SHEIKESS 14TH AMENDMENT U.S. CITIZENS WITH MINISTERIAL EXEMPTIONS. PERIOD

Kane Loc: UNLESS OTHERWISE ADOPTED BY THE MHTOS TRUST.

Kane Loc: Then....under MHTOS Trust, a MOORISH AMERICAN ADOPTED INTO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BE A BENEFICIARY IS TECHNICALLY A MOORISH CHEROKEE. 13TH AMENDMENT NATURALIZED U.S. CITIZEN WITH INDIAN EXEMPTIONS. PERIOD.

Kane Loc: The Prophet was recorded as a Cherokee. Extended his Tribe by jus sanquinis to include The El, Bey, & Ali Tribez as Cherokees. Thats the EXTENT OF HIS LAWFUL POWER TO NATIONALIZE, AT LAW

Kane Loc: So the Moors who become ACTUALLY ADOPTED BY THE CORPORATE BOARD OF THE MHTOS INC ARE INDIANS IN LAW AND THE MOORS ON THE CORPORATE BOARD OF THE MSTOA INC U.S. CITIZEN MINISTERS. ALL THE OTHERS IN THESE AND OTHER BODIES ARE SIMPLY MEMBERS/VOLUNTEERS/AUDIENCE/GUESTS/SUPPORTERS/STUDENTS....STILL IN ILLEGALLY CONFERRED AND ASSUMED 14TH AMENDMENT U.S. CORPORATE MERCHANDISE PROPERTY, SUBJECT TO CHRISTIAN CHATTEL ULTIMATELY HELD IN VATICAN TRUST AS SLAVE PROPERTY IN UTILITY OF THE U.S. ITS SUBSIDIARY, status.

Kane Loc: Its 2017. 2018.

Lets deal in facts.

There is a way still.

Master Sages have made resurrections. And Imitations as DIRECTED BY THE PROPHET!

THROUGH THE AGES MASTER SAGES CAN TRACE THEMSELVES BACK THUS THEY KNOW.....

IMITATE I, THE PROPHET....

I S L A M
conscious minds signs & symbols my people.

Kane Loc: Bomb has been dropped.

Technically MOORISH AMERICANS ARE EITHER 14TH AMENDMENT U.S. SUBJECTS, 14TH U.S. SLAVES, OR 13TH AMENDMENT AMERINDIANS. DEPEND ON WHAT BODY & STATUS WITHIN THEY BODY


Kane Loc: USA IS A TRADEMARK USED BY U.S. INC

Kane Loc: U.S.A. IS AN ACRONYM FOR United States of America

Kane Loc: Still a Trademark of U.S. Inc

Kane Loc: America is the Free National NAME

Kane Loc: America is occupied by DE FACTO U.S.S. Governance called US/U.S. INC/U.S./USA/U.S.A/U.S. OF A./UNITED STATES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

Kane Loc: Marinate

Kane Loc: All those abbreviates are trademarks of U.S. Inc in 1871

Kane Loc: Everything NDA Did is privy to U.S. Inc jurisdiction

Kane Loc: Period

Kane Loc: EXCEPT MDNM

Kane Loc: And his PERSONAL TRUST ESTATE

A.C. El: The prophet called us true American citizens


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  1. Loved all of the animations that you share here on the post. The way you explain the point of the issue really makes it easy to understand it and that point settles in our mind.

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